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WiLd_ChRIs
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# Posted: 25 Jul 2008 18:30 - Edited by: WiLd_ChRIs
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... Hallo .. Hello .. Salut .. Οπθβες .. Ahoj .. Hola .. ΐλλξ .. konnichi wa ...
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A shisha is an water pipe Arab origin. In contrast to the bong smoke in the mostly Shisha tobacco with fruit flavors or similar flavours.
My questions to you:
.._.._.._.._..(¯`·.¸¸.-> you smike Shisha/ water pipe?
_.._.._.._.._(¯`·.¸¸.-> in which situations do you smoke?
.._.._.._.._..(¯`·.¸¸.-> with whom do you smoke?
_.._.._.._.._(¯`·.¸¸.-> where you buy your tobacco?
.._.._.._.._..(¯`·.¸¸.-> Which tobacco tastes your best?
Myself,
smoke shisha since 2 years but otherwise I am non-smokers!
I smoke Shisha becous it tastes deliciouse. I smoke Shisha to relax a little and my favorit taste is melon. Mostly I buy my tobacco in the shop around the corner but I had already tobacco from Egypt, this has really 100x tasted better! So if on e has the opportunity tobacco from other countris such as egypt to be able to smoke, then it should be handled once.
I am grateful for your opinions. So have fun and lets get the party started 
... Tschüss .. Bye .. la revedere .. do videnia .. adiós .. do pobachennya .. sayônara ...
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nikoleta_rangelova
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# Posted: 25 Jul 2008 18:33 - Edited by: nikoleta_rangelova
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haha, so you posted this one again... well my answer again and my questions: I didn't know what this was before your post here, and what's teh difference between this and normal cigarettes? The waterpipe has some flavours? And the water is used as a filtre and makes it less harmful?
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wespecz
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# Posted: 25 Jul 2008 18:49 - Edited by: wespecz
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More harmful, less harmful, that's not important, I don't smoke. But great if water pipe is at least less harmful than normal cigarrette.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hookah
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cora
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# Posted: 25 Jul 2008 18:54
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140,000 people die from diseases caused by smoking + 400 non-smokers die from passive smoking - only in Germany! Don't know the figures for worldwide.
But no matter, if water pipe smoking is less harmful or not, I don't like smoke.
By the way also Ruslana and _ok_ are non-smokers and they don't like people smoking near them!
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nikoleta_rangelova
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# Posted: 25 Jul 2008 18:58 - Edited by: nikoleta_rangelova
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hm, I just wonder, how the air/smoke goes through the water, if it is pure water used....? may be I'll have to follow wespe's wiki-link and figure it out, unless the topic creator explains 
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wespecz
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# Posted: 25 Jul 2008 19:04
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cora
140,000 people die from diseases caused by smoking + 400 non-smokers die from passive smoking - only in Germany! Don't know the figures for worldwide.
My grandfather also died due to this nonsense!
Passive smoking is even 8x worser than normal one. When you go with friends to the pub - you don't need to dring an alcohol (as I almost don't) but smoke and smoking is everywhere and you can't escape in the moment.
nikoleta_rangelova
hm, I just wonder, how the air/smoke goes through the water, if it is pure water used....?
You've reminded me one old (historic) subway where steam locomotives has got water tank and smoke went through it before it left the chimney. It was preventing the tunnels against too much smoke but it slowed locomotives down a lot.
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nikoleta_rangelova
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# Posted: 25 Jul 2008 19:09
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hop there it is: "The level of the water has to be higher than the lowest point of the body's tube in order for the smoke to pass through it."
wespecz
Passive smoking is even 8x worser than normal one.
hahaha, so, let's start smoking or I'll be in number 400-dead for no reason, wow
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wespecz
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# Posted: 25 Jul 2008 19:10
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nikoleta_rangelova
hahaha, so, let's start smoking or I'll be in number 400-dead for no reason, wow
OMG :F No! 
I know that you're joking but somebody going around may not understand. 
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WiLd_ChRIs
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# Posted: 25 Jul 2008 19:12
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Hey sry but i have today no time no more time, but tomorrow i give ya all answers of your questions
mfg Chris
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nikoleta_rangelova
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# Posted: 25 Jul 2008 19:15 - Edited by: nikoleta_rangelova
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wespecz
ok, then no smoking and die in a smaller family/friendly circle
I know that you're joking but somebody going around may not understand.
I'm joking, of course!
It's just, I know people who used to smoke and lived more than 80 years, wow, and younger non-smokers die earlier, so it is not really valid for everyone, but since Medicine proves it..
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wespecz
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# Posted: 25 Jul 2008 19:20
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nikoleta_rangelova
It's just, I know people who used to smoke and lived more than 80 years, wow, and younger non-smokers die earlier, so it is not really valid for everyone, but since Medicine proves it..
It's not fair, indeed. But we're enjoying our life, loving it (and may never do nonsense like smoking) and never mind if my time is ending early in 75 years, for example, or if I'll be there for long time - to 90 years etc. but how we'll live. And Ruslanning is one of the best ways how to.
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nikoleta_rangelova
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# Posted: 25 Jul 2008 19:27
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OmG, a small Off diagression, but the forum clock says wespe's last post have been at 16:20h, and here it must have been at 19:20, wow, so a three-hour difference now?!
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wespecz
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# Posted: 25 Jul 2008 19:29
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nikoleta_rangelova
Oopsie yes I've also noticed but forgot to write omg. Please copy it to the appropriate topic Questions for admin.
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Katherine
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# Posted: 25 Jul 2008 19:40
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cora
Ruslana and _ok_ are non-smokers
That is very uncommon in the music business not to smoke, because the business is extremely stressful most turn to smoking.
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nikoleta_rangelova
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# Posted: 25 Jul 2008 19:41
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Katherine
because the business is extremely stressful most turn to smoking.
but isn't smoking harmful for the voice?
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wespecz
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# Posted: 25 Jul 2008 19:42
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Katherine
Oh it seems that Ruslana is really enjoying it. But simply - I could never immagine Ruslana doing this wrong stuff.
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WiLd_ChRIs
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# Posted: 25 Jul 2008 19:50
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So als erstes möchte ich nocheinmal betonen:
This thread is not to smoke animate!
This is my Shisha!
The differences to the normal smoke (like zigarettes).
1. The smoke is not so hot and pollutant bearing.
2. the smoke tastes delicious
3. i fI smoke, then not in the public!
As I said, I want not to encourage anyone to smoke
But because so many different cultures come together (Ruslanafans are the hottest in the world!) interssieren me the opinions of others.
And I respect every opinion!
LG WildEnergyChris 
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Katherine
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# Posted: 25 Jul 2008 19:53
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nikoleta_rangelova
but isn't smoking harmful for the voice?
No doesnt harm your voice as such, can effect lung capacity, but i have been smoking for a while and still have a large lung capacity. you ewould still be able to sing.
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Katherine
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# Posted: 25 Jul 2008 19:54
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wespecz
Oh it seems that Ruslana is really enjoying it. But simply - I could never immagine Ruslana doing this wrong stuff.
wrong stuff? its a persons choice whether to smoke, its not wrong to smoke.
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wespecz
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# Posted: 25 Jul 2008 20:58
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Katherine
wrong stuff? its a persons choice whether to smoke, its not wrong to smoke.
Yes it's everybody's choice but it's wrong choice, sorry I think this with my whole heart.
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nikoleta_rangelova
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# Posted: 25 Jul 2008 21:04 - Edited by: nikoleta_rangelova
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Katherine
No doesnt harm your voice as such,
of course not, lungs, vocal folds, organs responsible for the voice, I mean
WiLd_ChRIs
As I said, I want not to encourage anyone to smoke
But because so many different cultures come together (Ruslanafans are the hottest in the world!) interssieren me the opinions of others.
yes, thanks, we know. And indeed it is always interesting to meet other cultures
This is my Shisha!
OmG this looks BIG
Katherine
while and still have a large lung capacity. you ewould still be able to sing.
I don't mean you want be able to sing, (as it is with sport-when you smoke, you don't inhale enough oxygen...etc), I thought it may affect the quality of the voive in some way
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cora
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# Posted: 25 Jul 2008 21:05
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Katherine
That is very uncommon in the music business not to smoke, because the business is extremely stressful most turn to smoking.
It is indeed uncommon. But that's one thing I like about Ruslana.
its a persons choice whether to smoke, its not wrong to smoke.
I don't agree. Smokers are more likely to get all sorts of diseases including cancer, stroke, heart attack, arteriosclerosis etc. The treatment of these self-inflicted diseases is funded by national health systems which is funded by the society including non-smokers. So non-smokers have to pay for the treatment of smokers.
Smokers harm non-smokers directly when smoking in public through passive smoking.
And smokers cause huge economic losses because of smoking breaks in which they don't work. I can look the figures up, if you want. It is billions and billions of dollars every year.
Smoking harms the society (=other people) in many ways.
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nikoleta_rangelova
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# Posted: 25 Jul 2008 21:11
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here on the packs of cigarettes they started typing some small texts about how many people die, what diseases smoking causes and such things. These texts are surrounded by a black border and people joke that they look like obituaries,,haha, they really do
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wespecz
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# Posted: 25 Jul 2008 21:14
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here on the packs of cigarettes they started typing some small texts about how many people die
Here they're doing it long time but smokers got used to this.
In the one side state is trying to give so much money to anti-smoking campaign and to put cirarretes away from all the possible public places, including pubs and in the other way not only teenagers are fighting for marihuana legalization. Wow.
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nikoleta_rangelova
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# Posted: 25 Jul 2008 21:20 - Edited by: nikoleta_rangelova
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wespecz
they(we, OmG) have to "aim" those who doesn't do it yet and try to stop them from starting......old smoker can't/or is very very hard to be "cured". Not cured, OmG, because if they really wanted to stop it, they would stop it.
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wespecz
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# Posted: 25 Jul 2008 21:42
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nikoleta_rangelova
First every smoker need to want to stop smoking. Then you can help her/him. When she/he want to continue there is no way to help. You can help only in general by anti-smoking campaign.
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nikoleta_rangelova
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# Posted: 25 Jul 2008 21:46
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wespecz
You can help only in general by anti-smoking campaign.
by anti-smoking campaign you can most probably annoy the smokers more, I mean, you can persuade them (not persuade, let them persuade themselves, you can show them) the bad consiquences..... but just show them and not say: you shouldn't smoke, you have to stop, bla bla, because such advives and messing in people's own lives won't make them stop at all, may be the opposite
otherwise yes, like with everything else, if you don't want it yourself, noone can help
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wespecz
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# Posted: 25 Jul 2008 22:08
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nikoleta_rangelova
Yes showing is normal but when your relatives do it you usually try to persuade them.
otherwise yes, like with everything else, if you don't want it yourself, noone can help
Yes they said it many times in TV.
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Katherine
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# Posted: 25 Jul 2008 22:17 - Edited by: Katherine
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cora
And smokers cause huge economic losses because of smoking breaks in which they don't work. I can look the figures up, if you want. It is billions and billions of dollars every year.
Smoking harms the society (=other people) in many ways.
haha! this is true, however the amount of money NHS gain from the cigarette taxes are considerably more than what they spend on the treatment, so technically each smoker pays for their treatment plus more. You could say the same about anything to be honest.
Smokers harm non-smokers directly when smoking in public through passive smoking.
indeed this is true this is why i agreed with the public places ban in the UK. It does, however take a lot longer to damage someone through passive smoking though. and no i wont need figures.
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nikoleta_rangelova
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# Posted: 25 Jul 2008 22:17 - Edited by: nikoleta_rangelova
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wespecz
but when your relatives do it you usually try to persuade them.
hope you'll succeed with the relatives, hahha, my mother had promissed herself she would stop smoking if I enter university, haha, well, i'm there, but she still smokes, my father and sister never even thought of trying to stop, my sister's husband tried twice and even didn't light a cigarette for 2 months, but since my sister didn't want to stop, he started again....
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