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Ruthen
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# Gesendet: 19 Sep 2008 20:16
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wespecz
You're welcome once again..
Yeah it's nice way to distinguish
When you see i in Cyrillics it can not be Russian!

Guido
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# Gesendet: 19 Sep 2008 22:20
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When you see i in Cyrillics it can not be Russian!
A trick I learned from Guntram years ago.

Guido
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# Gesendet: 19 Sep 2008 23:29
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no, say dobra nich or otherwise the ranok won't be dobriy
To the one that wrote no guido on forum is nu jokes I say : No Nikoleta on forum is no jokes. A good one Nikoleta.

Guido
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# Gesendet: 19 Sep 2008 23:36
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the ranok won't be dobriy
Ranok is allways dobriy when Ruslana sings Svitanok.

wespecz
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# Gesendet: 19 Sep 2008 23:45
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Ruthen

You're welcome once again..
Yeah it's nice way to distinguish
When you see i in Cyrillics it can not be Russian!

Thank you, you don't know how much you made my work with the fan club easier. Before I needed to check everything by translator to not mix up theese two languages.

Guido
A trick I learned from Guntram years ago.
It's cook trick!

divcinavojin
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# Gesendet: 20 Sep 2008 08:54 - Edited by: divcinavojin
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Look at: URL this is mine

stanley
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# Gesendet: 26 Mai 2010 18:56
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Ok, as cora suggested I'm gonna continue my topic here.

Thanks for replying, Olena. I sometimes listen to Ukrainian radio stations, but I only understand words which sound similar in Polish. Actually, our languages seem very alike to me. Anyway, I cannot really distinguish spoken Ukrainian from spoken Russian yet. It is easier with written language, since I can check if there are some exclusively Ukrainian or exclusively Russian letters in a text.

But Rusłana sings in Ukrainian, right? At least, letters in lyrics are Ukrainian... And what's with Ani Lorak? Or maybe you can suggest me some other Ukrainian singers, who actually sing in Ukrainian (preferably females)? Some 'truly' Ukrainian radio or TV station would be great, too. I would be very grateful

Or, maybe you got some good TV series in Ukrainian? Watching TV series is, in my opinion, the best way to learn some language.

Is it only my impression, or is Ukrainian really more similar to Polish than it is to Russian? I would put it that way:

Russian - Belarusian - Ukrainian - Polish.

Olena Soltysyak
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# Gesendet: 27 Mai 2010 11:22 - Edited by: Olena Soltysyak
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stanley

Thanks for replying, Olena.

You are welcome.

I sometimes listen to Ukrainian radio stations, but I only understand words which sound similar in Polish. Actually, our languages seem very alike to me. Anyway, I cannot really distinguish spoken Ukrainian from spoken Russian yet. It is easier with written language, since I can check if there are some exclusively Ukrainian or exclusively Russian letters in a text.

Yes, for foreighners it's difficult to distinguish these languages, 1,5 months ago I was in Lviv, where we had a meeting with teachers from Poland, they ask me the same question. What I can tell you is that Russian language is more taughtable in the world than Ukrainain, some words are alike, though to speak the right Ukrainian language difficult, as so many TV programmes, newspapers, songs, books we have in Russian and Ukrainain people start to use Russian themselves even not thinking about it. In Poland Russian language was and is taughtable at schools, universities. When I communicated with teachers from Poland they tried to speak Ukrainian though some words used from Russian language, I told them that those words weren't Ukrainian and they told me that it was hard to distinguish because Russian was pormoted more, it's how they learned.
As to my opinion, Polish and Ukrainian are more alike, for example, I understand everything but can't speak. As to Ruslana, so she sings Ukrainian. Ani Lorak 50/50. I mean half of her songs are in Russian.

Here we go:


Dictionary: Here you can choose any language.

http://slovnyk.org.ua/


Pronunciation of Ukrainian letters.

http://www.ukraine.com/forums/attachments/language/155d1245241215-ukrainian-alphabet- translit.gif


Ukrainian Alphabet / ΣκπΰΏνρόκΰ ΐαεςκΰ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9h6VfEcLig


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHNSWCBQDLg&feature=related


Ukrainian Lesson # 1 - Colors.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twVl0cQcu5M&feature=related


Ukrainian Lesson #2 - Year, month, week, day

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7lQahzK5oQ&feature=related


Ukrainian Lesson # 3 - Animals

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmUWO4nWBZM&feature=related


Ukrainian Lesson #4 - Around the House

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCjoozk_KDU&feature=related


Ukrainian Lesson # 5 - Food (grocery, vegetables, berries)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y80lS2nTfRE&feature=related


Ukrainian Lesson # 6 - Birds, insects

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CQe4FwIlQE&feature=related


Ukrainian Lesson #7 - Kitchen items

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3c1xSuz3KY&feature=related


Ukrainian Lesson #8 - Seaworld

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udITPX0_ODQ&feature=related


And so on, you can find there on that pages more of such lessons.
Beginning Ukrainian: numbers 1-10

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MS4YsU7dY90&feature=related


Ukrainain alphabet:

http://abetka.ukrlife.org/abetka_u.htm


Ukrainian bukvaryk ( for children to sart reading).

http://abetka.ukrlife.org/bukv_m.htm


Ukainian chytanka ( with the help of it children train their reading)

http://abetka.ukrlife.org/chytanka.html


Ukrainain Uh radio station from my city Ternopil


The lessons- how to speak correct Ukraianain


http://www.uhradio.com.ua/programm/govorimo-pravilno


Here, you have the schedule of the whole day, the news, songs, programmes which are on the radio. And the songs are really Ukrainian.


http://www.uhradio.com.ua/schedule/


The songs, only Ukrainian from many singers.


http://www.uhradio.com.ua/mp3/page/1/


Enjoy!

stanley
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# Gesendet: 28 Mai 2010 10:51
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Thanks a lot! Actually, I already know the alphabet. I'm learning some basic words from a book I bought (some kind of dictionary for traveling people, with common words and whole expressions), so I think now I need to learn some basic grammar etc. Though, I really appreciate your effort.

I'll try that radio station next week, because I'm leaving for a few days. The list of artists and songs is great, thanks again! But from the number of songs I can truly say, that there is way less popular songs in Ukrainian, than we have here, in Poland, in Polish. Not a good sign for your national culture, I guess.

Can you recommend me some music? Because I really don't know what to choose from that list

Olena Soltysyak
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# Gesendet: 28 Mai 2010 13:35 - Edited by: Olena Soltysyak
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stanley
You are welcome.
Well, you can choose any of the songs, I don't know what you like more.

What kind of music do you like?

stanley
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# Gesendet: 30 Mai 2010 22:47
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I like pop music with good lyrics. I really admire Madonna's works, especially '80s and '90s. I also like this New-York-styled-pop, like The Pierces. It's very American with a bit of French influence in the style of singing. May seem similar to Katie Melua, I guess. I also like simple, pure, modern pop-rock. I mean, something to chill out, but not dumb at all - like Avril Lavigne.

Olena Soltysyak
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# Gesendet: 31 Mai 2010 13:07
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stanley

Oh, I understand now. So, the link of that radion station won'd do for you, because that link has got typical Ukrainian songs (old songs), no pop. I will try to find something for you, something different apart from this. but in Ukrainian.

stanley
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# Gesendet: 31 Mai 2010 13:59
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Well, I've been listening to that radio station you recommended, and some song are really good. But sometimes it is hard for me to find the song I'm listening to.

Olena Soltysyak
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# Gesendet: 31 Mai 2010 14:04
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stanley

Ok, I'll try to find other songs for you.

Guido
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# Gesendet: 31 Mai 2010 15:57
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I'm learning some basic words from a book I bought
the ukrainian phrase book ?
Our german friends had another book. Not that good since there were no cyrillics in it.
Our Ukrainian friends don't have alphabet. They have azboeka.

Olena Soltysyak
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# Gesendet: 3 Jun 2010 13:03
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Guido
They have azboeka.
It is in Russian not in Ukrainian.

Olena Soltysyak
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# Gesendet: 10 Jun 2010 13:24 - Edited by: Olena Soltysyak
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stanley

Hi, sorry, I forgot to send you a link as I promised. Here is the link with Ukrainian songs of different singers, but to download the songs you have to register on that site, it must be for free. Enjoy!
Here is the example of the Ukrainian songs of Ani Lorak, but you can choose any singer and the song.
I give you the links some of the singers, but please, write me if you could register and if it worked for you, if no, I'll try to find something else.

http://www.pisni.org.ua/persons/9.html


http://www.pisni.org.ua/persons/189.html


http://www.pisni.org.ua/persons/295.html


http://www.pisni.org.ua/persons/116.html


http://www.pisni.org.ua/persons/179.html


http://www.pisni.org.ua/persons/99.html


http://www.pisni.org.ua/persons/1627.html



These are the singers I advice.

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